at the time of TD's GB....nothing sad about that. And the quality/fitment aint bad either. But TD's customer service sucks(if you ask about the status of your order they just give you a line of b.s.), TD's quoted delivery time was b.s.(The 6 month delivery window was annoying for several reasons, mainly because my credit card company wont go that far back on billing discrepancies), I dont think Returns/Refunds are offered(I guess you get what you pay for). There were several times I wondered if I was involved in a pyramid scheme, since I ordered in the 2nd GB. But it all worked-out in the end. Not exactly what I expected when I sent TD my $, but I guess it could've been a lot worse :)